[OCCAID] Proposal for EINTAP

[Scott J. Clifford]

On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 06:55:53AM +0000, Tristan Santore wrote:
> >
> Hi everybody,
> 
> ater doing some testing with spamcalc I must strongly say that I fully 
> agree with Miles oppinion on that issue. I do use a longer hostname 
> myself...and yes i do use it on irc, which is prolly the main reason why 
> people use hostnames like e.g. my.oppinion.is.me.uk could be one. Which 
> is classed as dns spam. Saying that though i do not use ridiculous dns 
> names. But in my oppinion I dont see how people would be bothered by a 
> longer than usual dns name. I mean you would not see that dns name 
> unless u were looking at peoples hostmasks. Also I dont see that the 
> overhead would be that much higher, but please correct me if I am wrong. 
> Its a bit odd how it decides on if something is dns spam or not anyway.
> 
> Only a short while ago governments in Europe were discussing (still are) 
> if isp's should keep logs of peoples surfing habits, so that these could 
> be used for criminal investigations etc.
> 
> Lets ask ourselves, if we start to regulate the internet in certain 
> ways, wont we destroy the whole idea of it ? People are not causing a 
> nuisance really by using a longer dns name. People who exploit ipv6 and 
> their tunnel for DOS attacks or other malicious activity deserve to be 
> disciplined, because they are actively causing a nuisance and more work 
> for others.

You are missing a point though. There is a difference between transit
traffic and what goes on an address space that represents OCCAID project
in front of the public.
You can feel free to host porn and dirty stuff through our network so
long as you keep such services out of our address space. Feel free to
get a /48 from BTExact, HE or whomever, run disgusting stuff and send
bits to OCCAID for all we care. well of course, we will act if there
is illegal traffic flowing since that's requirement by the law.

But if you were to do the same out of address space that represents
OCCAID, it makes us nothing but look like bunch of children. OCCAID
is also planning to register as a 501(c)3 non profit corporation
this year sometime. How do you think we can expect companies and
businesses to continue to donate to the project when there are
bunch of seven year olds comparing how much longer they can piss
using address space which represents us in the public?

Oh don't get me wrong, I agree to your points. I hate internet
censorship myself. But do note the difference between 
guilty-by-association versus transit traffic. 


Scott.