[OCCAID] Proposal for EINTAP

[Michael Nicks]

On 01/08/05 06:55:53 +0000, Tristan Santore wrote:
> Hi everybody,

Hi.

> ater doing some testing with spamcalc I must strongly say that I fully 
> agree with Miles oppinion on that issue. I do use a longer hostname 
> myself...and yes i do use it on irc, which is prolly the main reason why 
> people use hostnames like e.g. my.oppinion.is.me.uk could be one. Which 
> is classed as dns spam. Saying that though i do not use ridiculous dns 
> names. But in my oppinion I dont see how people would be bothered by a 
> longer than usual dns name. I mean you would not see that dns name 
> unless u were looking at peoples hostmasks. Also I dont see that the 
> overhead would be that much higher, but please correct me if I am wrong. 
> Its a bit odd how it decides on if something is dns spam or not anyway.

The idea of a policy against dns abuse is to prevent abusive users from
joining as well as to maintain OCCAID as a reputable organization, not an
organization of irc kids. Also, last I recalled, OCCIAD was an educational
and experimental (for users) network, not an irc transit network. :)

> Only a short while ago governments in Europe were discussing (still are) 
> if isp's should keep logs of peoples surfing habits, so that these could 
> be used for criminal investigations etc.

I don't see how this is relevant to the topic at hand. The topic is about 
rdns abuse, not privacy issues.

> Lets ask ourselves, if we start to regulate the internet in certain 
> ways, wont we destroy the whole idea of it ? People are not causing a 
> nuisance really by using a longer dns name. People who exploit ipv6 and 
> their tunnel for DOS attacks or other malicious activity deserve to be 
> disciplined, because they are actively causing a nuisance and more work 
> for others.

This isn't regulating per se. This is abuse mitigation and control. The
question of regulating the internet in regards to content (censoring) and
the question of disciplinary action in regards to rdns abuse are separate.

-M

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