[OCCAID] Proposal for EINTAP

[James]

On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 12:59:57PM -0500, Joshua Brady wrote:
> Adam,
> 
> Adam Davenport wrote:
> >Just because a policy has been set, does not mean it will be actively 
> >enforced.  Look at how many hundreds and probably thousands of laws that 
> >are on the books that are not actively enforced.
> 
> Most likely true, but what would that say about OCCAID for having a 
> policy, yet never enforcing it. I fully understand what your saying, as 
> the policy on eggdrops on most networks would be to keep the bad ones 
> from hindering others use. Yet, for OCCAID it would be like having a 
> policy not to allow tcp6667, yet not blocking it, and further not doing 
> anything when it is used.

I have yet to see OCCAID itself actually enforcing a policy.. We never
have. But that doesn't mean we should never do so.

We do hover refer to the policies (for example, the peering policy) when
somebody makes himself become a problem :-)

> 
> >If you don't make yourself a problem, you probably won't have any.  If 
> >you do make yourself a problem however, well then there is policy to 
> >handle it :)
> 
> To further expand, can we come up with an policy which allows occaid to 
> be mature, respected and still serve transit customers. Yet at the same 
> time keep users from totally polluting OCCAID? I may agree that 
> bubba.gump.uses.irc.occaid.org may be acceptable yet 
> i.like.to.sniff.peoples.panties.occaid.org would be totally unacceptable.

I think the EINTAP framework specifying the "no dns-spam" policy is good
enough for us. While we want to stay in the mature level of community, we
don't want to create too many policies as then we will end up wasting
unnecessary energy in being a police state than running a network.

> 
> As Scott said, the dirty bits could transfer through the network, but 
> not use the address space.

Agreed.

-J


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