[OCCAID] Proposal for EINTAP

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

Miles Nordin <carton at Ivy.NET> wrote:
>>>>>> "j" == James  <james at towardex.com> writes:
>
>     j> If you have problems with tunnel or other provisioning due to
>     j> differences of opinions, you are welcome to bring that to my
>     j> attention in private and I will deal with that.
>
> thanks. :' I wasn't worried about anything like that myself since I've
> been around a few months and know how fast you guys are, but at least
> one guy wrote me privately, and refused to post in public when I

What was the point of dragging this dirty linen out to wash on politech 
btw?

Now the usual, hackneyed and quite wrong "spam filtering is censorship" 
arguments will get trotted out by various people .. oh well.


Declan McCullagh <declan at well.com> wrote:
> Here's some background on IPv6, the "next generation" Internet
> Protocol: http://www.ipv6.org/
> http://playground.sun.com/pub/ipng/html/ipng-main.html
>
> -Declan
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: submission: ``DNS spam'' forbidden on OCCAID
> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:48:59 -0500
> From: Miles Nordin <carton at Ivy.NET>
> To: declan at well.com
>
> OCCAID, an experimental contributor-based IPv6 ISP in the US, has just
> published a policy saying that DNS reverse-lookup hostnames like:
>
>   care.bears.want.to.evicerate.us
>
> meaning, long DNS names that spell out words or phrases, are forbidden
> on their network.  They even have an autocensor program that
> calculates if a hostname is so-called ``DNS spam'' or not:
> http://spamcalc.net/
>
> The policy was adopted on 2005-01-11.  The DNS spam stuff is in
> section 14.  Here is the policy:
>
>  http://www.occaid.org/proposals/eintap.txt
>
> Here's an archive of the discussion of the policy on their members
> mailing list:
>
>  http://web.Ivy.NET/~carton/occaid/msg00553.html
>
> Here's James Jun's opinion of it on the ``unofficial'' #occaid channel
> on efnet:
>
>  http://web.Ivy.NET/~carton/occaid-irc.txt
>
> The thing that disturbs me most is that the policy is dumb, and that
> the IPv6 Innurnet is starting to have all the same Interweb
> quasi-censorship problems of the regular Internet, where ISPs block
> port 80, where downstream is way cheaper than upstream, where
> always-on IPs are dynamic for no good technical reason, and so on.
>
> Libertarians may object more to the way a small inner-circle is making
> decisions that aren't subject to debate on the list where all the
> financial, transit/colocation, and technical contributors discuss
> things.  Politech readers might be disappointed by technical people
> saying ``i'm not interested in politics---it's not my problem.''
>
> Or maybe it is just some local quarrel, and you don't care at all.
> Anyway.  there it is.  sorry for the noise if you don't want it.
>
>
> Background:
>
> OCCAID is an experimental IPv6 network in the US.  Anyone can join for
> free, and they are much better than other ways to get IPv6:
>
>  freenet6.net:  very slow.  no BGP.
>  he.net:        blocks tcp port 6667.  (i've never tried them)
>  6to4:          very slow.  no BGP.  no reverse-DNS.
>
> One can connect to OCCAID using a gif IPv6-over-IPv4 tunnel, and the
> network is very well-run with low latency, diverse peering, and good
> reliability.
>
> The requirements for membership are: (1) you must be genuinely
> interested in network experimentation, like learning BGP, OSPF, IPv6,
> and helping other members, and (2) you must have a mostly-static IP
> because unlike the other three tunnels, they configure their tunnels
> manually, and (3) noncommercial use.
>
> OCCAID has both end-node members like people with DSL and cable
> connections, but they also peer with big ISPs in carrier-neutral
> colocation facilities all over the US.  If you have a rack in such a
> facility you can order an Ethernet cable to OCCAID for IPv6 transit,
> and if you are an ISP you can peer with them to give IPv6 connectivity
> to your customers.
>
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